An idea as to how to go about searching for a wife.
Dear Josh,
Your attitude towards marriage is quite impressive. It exhibits an unusually mature world outlook.
I will answer the questions you asked me,but, for the sake of clarity, I will answer them in an order different from the order in which you posed them.
You asked:Do I wait? Do I intentionally look?
Josh, you definitely should not wait.Therefore, you must intentionally look.
You asked: How do you do it in the life that I live? Where? How?
It can be done, but you have to think out of the box.I'll explain.
I will tell you briefly the process I used to find a wife.And when we, by examining the process, figure out why it works so well, we shall see that though you cannot mimic it perfectly, you can, however, create for yourself a process that will likely produce similar results.
So here goes.
Basically, someone who knew me also knew someone who knew my wife.Now that someone,the one that knew me, knew that I was looking to marry.And the other someone,the one that knew my wife, knew that she was looking to marry too.So those two someones arranged for us to meet.
So we met for the first time in a hotel lobby.Because I knew beforehand the name of the book she would be holding, I recognized her right away .Following the advise of someone wiser than myself,I ensured that the first date was strictly small talk.(The first date,I'm told, is only to see if there is chemistry between the couple.There was.) On the second date we talked heavy stuff.Ditto the third.At the beginning of the fourth I proposed.She accepted.We met 10 or so more times before she returned to Switzerland.And after she got there,we spoke for a half hour a week for the duration of time that remained to the wedding.(about three months or so.)
That's it.
Now, there are a three main reasons why the process works:
1. Both of us orthodox Jews, we know , before we ever meet, that we more or less share the same values.
2. We both appreciate the gravity of what we are doing at the meetings.Each one of us is trying to determine whether or not the other is a suitable spouse.We are not trying to see whether we find each other cute, fun or exciting.Each one is trying to see whether or not the other is the person with whom he or she will be able to spend the REST of his or her life.
3. No monkey business. We are not doing this to waste time.This is a yes or no thing.Now, no one has to decide immediately. But the minute one of us knows that the other just ain't the one-thats it.Time to move on.
Now if both people know what to look for in a spouse-what is critical and what is incidental- and they both lead a life and have values that are conducive to family life, they,with dedication, will build a strong family.
In a nutshell the benefits provided by the system are these.
Before meeting, each one knows that the other is looking for a spouse and shares his or her core values.
When they meet, they understand that the meeting is solely to determine whether or not they make a suitable match for marriage. And they conduct their meetings accordingly.
If they discover that their relationship is fruitless, they quickly and maturely end it,well before their hearts get involved.
Now I understand that this just ain't going to happen this way with you,But I bet that you, by thinking out of the box and exercising a bit of self restraint, can secure for yourself all the aforementioned advantages in your search for a wife.
How?
Well,it seems that you are looking for a girl who wants to be a wife and a mother(not just have a husband and children) and who is looking for a family man.
Where do you find such a girl?The truth is that if you just go fishing, you will likely never find a girl who is mature enough to know that what she wants NOW is a family.Rather, you will have to date and date and date, and fall in love and fall out of love until finally your heart becomes tied to some girl who might or might not be a good wife for you and a good mother for your children.
I believe that there are girls who fit the bill, but they are not fishing,as you also ought not to be.
Here is what I would do if I were you.
I would join a number of on-line Jewish dating networks. Some of them cater exclusively to people who wish to marry;the others allow you to specify marriage as your interest in your online profile .This is how they work by and large.Basically, each member creates a profile featuring his or her biographical info,interests, picture and other such info.Then, the members scan through member profiles of the opposite sex.When a member comes across a profile that arouses his or her interest, he or she "invites" the person of interest to engage in communication.If the invitee, after checking out the profile of the inviter, is interested, he or she will accept the invitation, and the two will begin communicating electronically through whatever channel the dating service has set up for this purpose.If after communicating,the two still find each other interesting, they will agree to meet one another.And the rest you can fill in for yourself.
Now, if you use this system wisely, you can secure for yourself all the advantages that my, more traditional, system provides.
By judiciously sifting through the profiles, you can limit your choices to girls who are looking, now, to build a family.You can also tell a lot about a girl from the image of herself she puts out to potential suitors:by the type of picture she displays, by the type of interests she publicizes, etc.
If you probe wisely, and you resist the impulse to meet the girl before you have communicated enough with her to know what you need to know about her, you will be able to ensure that you only meet girls who share your core values.
The emotional distance that this system, when used properly, provides affords you the clarity of mind to know relatively early on when an encounter is fruitless.And you will be able to act accordingly.
Since,you will be clear about your dating goals, and you will demand the same clarity from your carefully selected eligibles, you and she will be able to dispense with all the time wasting, bulls**t all to common to the "standard" dating experience.
You live in California, so there will likely be many eligibles more or less local to you.Plus,with your career and picture,you will profile well.(Any girl seriously looking for a husband who professes to care not about how you make a living is either a liar or a fool.Beware)
After I receive your response,I will Email you links to some of these services.(They are easy to find with google,though.)I also have more ideas and more to say,generally, on this subject, but I await your response.
Love, Naftali.
Your attitude towards marriage is quite impressive. It exhibits an unusually mature world outlook.
I will answer the questions you asked me,but, for the sake of clarity, I will answer them in an order different from the order in which you posed them.
You asked:Do I wait? Do I intentionally look?
Josh, you definitely should not wait.Therefore, you must intentionally look.
You asked: How do you do it in the life that I live? Where? How?
It can be done, but you have to think out of the box.I'll explain.
I will tell you briefly the process I used to find a wife.And when we, by examining the process, figure out why it works so well, we shall see that though you cannot mimic it perfectly, you can, however, create for yourself a process that will likely produce similar results.
So here goes.
Basically, someone who knew me also knew someone who knew my wife.Now that someone,the one that knew me, knew that I was looking to marry.And the other someone,the one that knew my wife, knew that she was looking to marry too.So those two someones arranged for us to meet.
So we met for the first time in a hotel lobby.Because I knew beforehand the name of the book she would be holding, I recognized her right away .Following the advise of someone wiser than myself,I ensured that the first date was strictly small talk.(The first date,I'm told, is only to see if there is chemistry between the couple.There was.) On the second date we talked heavy stuff.Ditto the third.At the beginning of the fourth I proposed.She accepted.We met 10 or so more times before she returned to Switzerland.And after she got there,we spoke for a half hour a week for the duration of time that remained to the wedding.(about three months or so.)
That's it.
Now, there are a three main reasons why the process works:
1. Both of us orthodox Jews, we know , before we ever meet, that we more or less share the same values.
2. We both appreciate the gravity of what we are doing at the meetings.Each one of us is trying to determine whether or not the other is a suitable spouse.We are not trying to see whether we find each other cute, fun or exciting.Each one is trying to see whether or not the other is the person with whom he or she will be able to spend the REST of his or her life.
3. No monkey business. We are not doing this to waste time.This is a yes or no thing.Now, no one has to decide immediately. But the minute one of us knows that the other just ain't the one-thats it.Time to move on.
Now if both people know what to look for in a spouse-what is critical and what is incidental- and they both lead a life and have values that are conducive to family life, they,with dedication, will build a strong family.
In a nutshell the benefits provided by the system are these.
Before meeting, each one knows that the other is looking for a spouse and shares his or her core values.
When they meet, they understand that the meeting is solely to determine whether or not they make a suitable match for marriage. And they conduct their meetings accordingly.
If they discover that their relationship is fruitless, they quickly and maturely end it,well before their hearts get involved.
Now I understand that this just ain't going to happen this way with you,But I bet that you, by thinking out of the box and exercising a bit of self restraint, can secure for yourself all the aforementioned advantages in your search for a wife.
How?
Well,it seems that you are looking for a girl who wants to be a wife and a mother(not just have a husband and children) and who is looking for a family man.
Where do you find such a girl?The truth is that if you just go fishing, you will likely never find a girl who is mature enough to know that what she wants NOW is a family.Rather, you will have to date and date and date, and fall in love and fall out of love until finally your heart becomes tied to some girl who might or might not be a good wife for you and a good mother for your children.
I believe that there are girls who fit the bill, but they are not fishing,as you also ought not to be.
Here is what I would do if I were you.
I would join a number of on-line Jewish dating networks. Some of them cater exclusively to people who wish to marry;the others allow you to specify marriage as your interest in your online profile .This is how they work by and large.Basically, each member creates a profile featuring his or her biographical info,interests, picture and other such info.Then, the members scan through member profiles of the opposite sex.When a member comes across a profile that arouses his or her interest, he or she "invites" the person of interest to engage in communication.If the invitee, after checking out the profile of the inviter, is interested, he or she will accept the invitation, and the two will begin communicating electronically through whatever channel the dating service has set up for this purpose.If after communicating,the two still find each other interesting, they will agree to meet one another.And the rest you can fill in for yourself.
Now, if you use this system wisely, you can secure for yourself all the advantages that my, more traditional, system provides.
By judiciously sifting through the profiles, you can limit your choices to girls who are looking, now, to build a family.You can also tell a lot about a girl from the image of herself she puts out to potential suitors:by the type of picture she displays, by the type of interests she publicizes, etc.
If you probe wisely, and you resist the impulse to meet the girl before you have communicated enough with her to know what you need to know about her, you will be able to ensure that you only meet girls who share your core values.
The emotional distance that this system, when used properly, provides affords you the clarity of mind to know relatively early on when an encounter is fruitless.And you will be able to act accordingly.
Since,you will be clear about your dating goals, and you will demand the same clarity from your carefully selected eligibles, you and she will be able to dispense with all the time wasting, bulls**t all to common to the "standard" dating experience.
You live in California, so there will likely be many eligibles more or less local to you.Plus,with your career and picture,you will profile well.(Any girl seriously looking for a husband who professes to care not about how you make a living is either a liar or a fool.Beware)
After I receive your response,I will Email you links to some of these services.(They are easy to find with google,though.)I also have more ideas and more to say,generally, on this subject, but I await your response.
Love, Naftali.
